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Poseidon's Fury may be closing very soon

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Dr. Emmett Brown said:
Same could be said about the 3 spinners at MK (4 if you count Dumbo as two separate ones). But yes, IOA doesn't need another spinner, just something more family friendly.
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They built the newer ones because Dumbo was in such high demand. Not so with One Fish, Two Fish.
 
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Jordan said:
They built the newer ones because Dumbo was in such high demand. Not so with One Fish, Two Fish.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Astro Orbiter also open with the park? Dumbo was in such high demand because of its location. You don't see the nearly half of what it used to be (even with double the capacity).
 
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Dr. Emmett Brown said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Astro Orbiter also open with the park? Dumbo was in such high demand because of its location. You don't see the nearly half of what it used to be (even with double the capacity).
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It opened in 1974.
 
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I think they should tear down Lost COntintent and expand Seuss land, and make more young family themed rides, as the park really needs more. in my opinion.
 
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I think they should tear down Lost COntintent and expand Seuss land, and make more young family themed rides, as the park really needs more. in my opinion.
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They don't need to tear down Lost Continent to expand Seuss.

Expand Seuss and make Lost Continent a viable land of its own.
 
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Personally i love the Mt. Crumpit idea for Seuss but i also think the Poseidons Fury building and Mythos are wayyy to amazing to just tear down.
Mt. Crumpit can go behind one fish and Cat in the Hat. Leave Poseidons Fury and Mythos. And change the rest of LC for a new look and an attraction or two(one kid attraction and one family/adult attraction).

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Felipe said:
I agree. LC is beautiful and it deserves to shine again. More than anything, I do not want to lose Mythos Restaurant or Poseidon's facade and vortex, so I definitely want LC to stay. Poseidon needs a 3.0 situation, and I also think a dark ride is the way to go. Hopefully they can also find a way to add another small ride somewhere in LC, to balance out LC with the rest of the Islands.
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I just noticed i basically repeated what you just said lol except i mentioned Mt. Crumpit haha...but anyways i definitely agree a dark ride would be so suitable for LC. Any ideas what the dark ride could be about?..
 
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Jordan said:
There's no gap to be bridged. The park already has a spinner.
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A single spinner doesn't bridge a gap. There needs to be several kid and family friendly attractions, all around, to really push for those that continue to chose Disney over Universal.


rhino4evr said:
I think they should tear down Lost COntintent and expand Seuss land, and make more young family themed rides, as the park really needs more. in my opinion.
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I don't think that's a good solution. It might increase the amount of attractions for younger guests, but still keeps them isolated to that area of the park. I think they need to have family friendly attractions spread all around. Otherwise, it'll keep feeling like the majority of the park is not kid/family-friendly.


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They don't need to tear down Lost Continent to expand Seuss.

Expand Seuss and make Lost Continent a viable land of its own.
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^ This! :thumbs:
 
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Im thinking out loud here and probably doesnt make any sense but ive never heard of somebody say this idea..what about a Bermuda Triangle water ride attraction???..haha i really have no idea why that popped in my head...keep in my mind i realize it probably wouldnt fit with LC but i just thought it was weird how that popped in my head for a ride attraction.
 
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I don't think that's a good solution. It might increase the amount of attractions for younger guests, but still keeps them isolated to that area of the park. I think they need to have family friendly attractions spread all around. Otherwise, it'll keep feeling like the majority of the park is not kid/family-friendly.
^ This! :thumbs:
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I couldn't agree with this more. There should be at least one kid friendly/family ride in each section. There also needs to be more all family rides like Disney has (Pirates, Buzz Lightyear, TSM, Haunted Mansion) where no matter what age or height you can ride on it and have fun. These need to be spread out throughout the two parks instead of being stuck in kid zones or Seuss. I don't know of one ride right now in IOA other than PF that qualifies as an entire family experience. Until they get more rides like this it will be hard for them to attract the families that go to Disney. Because families don't have one kid, they normally have more than one kid and they are all different ages. It is an amazing thrill park, but when my friends come down with young kids or a mix of ages of kids, I recommend they don't go to Universal. It is a waste of money for them. Even though I love Uni a lot and love going there myself, at $80+ per adult, it just isn't worth it for most families to go if half their family really can't ride much and the ones they can ride the other half of the family doesn't really want to go on (one fish, two fish).
 
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I couldn't agree with this more. There should be at least one kid friendly/family ride in each section. There also needs to be more all family rides like Disney has (Pirates, Buzz Lightyear, TSM, Haunted Mansion) where no matter what age or height you can ride on it and have fun. These need to be spread out throughout the two parks instead of being stuck in kid zones or Seuss. I don't know of one ride right now in IOA other than PF that qualifies as an entire family experience. Until they get more rides like this it will be hard for them to attract the families that go to Disney. Because families don't have one kid, they normally have more than one kid and they are all different ages. It is an amazing thrill park, but when my friends come down with young kids or a mix of ages of kids, I recommend they don't go to Universal. It is a waste of money for them. Even though I love Uni a lot and love going there myself, at $80+ per adult, it just isn't worth it for most families to go if half their family really can't ride much and the ones they can ride the other half of the family doesn't really want to go on (one fish, two fish).
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There is a lot of kid stuff to do at the parks. The entire Seuss land with all the attractions, Storm Force, Me Ship, The Olive, Popeye raft ride, Camp Jurassic is HUGE and the flyers, Hipogriff, Olivanders, Shrek, Despicable Me, E.T., Woody Wood Pecker and the entire KidZone, Simpsons(kids go on that),
Spiderman(most kids go on that) and not to mention the Simpsons spinner and Hogwarts Express are coming to the park. And besides the coasters all the rides are family oriented rides. Now i disagree on the kid friendly stuff you said but i agree that Universal needs a couple more family Disney like rides( Pirates, and Haunted Mansion).
 
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People keep saying there needs to be kiddy rides, but Universal isn't Disney and Disney isn't Universal.
 
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People keep saying there needs to be kiddy rides, but Universal isn't Disney and Disney isn't Universal.
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But Universal is trying to be a family theme park resort destination.

If they're going to talk the talk, they need to walk the walk.
 
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But Universal is trying to be a family theme park resort destination.

If they're going to talk the talk, they need to walk the walk.
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They have to space to add in enough family rides as well, so there's really no excuse to not at least attempt to appeal to that demographic.
 
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People keep saying there needs to be kiddy rides, but Universal isn't Disney and Disney isn't Universal.
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I do agree with that statement. Nobody wants Universal to turn into Disney where theres 10 spinners with the same concept just a different theme. Universal has plenty of kids stuff to do it just happens to be more THRILLING of a park. They are different parks..Universal is a kid friendly and family oriented park with coasters. I think thats the perfect mix if you ask me. And i think its appropriate to repeat what you said "Universal is not Disney and Disney is not Universal". Me, personally i dont want Universal to turn into Disney.
 
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Accio Butterbeer said:
There is a lot of kid stuff to do at the parks. The entire Seuss land with all the attractions, Storm Force, Me Ship, The Olive, Popeye raft ride, Camp Jurassic is HUGE and the flyers, Hipogriff, Olivanders, Shrek, Despicable Me, E.T., Woody Wood Pecker and the entire KidZone, Simpsons(kids go on that),
Spiderman(most kids go on that) and not to mention the Simpsons spinner and Hogwarts Express are coming to the park. And besides the coasters all the rides are family oriented rides. Now i disagree on the kid friendly stuff you said but i agree that Universal needs a couple more family Disney like rides( Pirates, and Haunted Mansion).
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Kid friendly is not just in the themes. Most of what you mentioned has a height restriction, which makes it not friendly to younger kids, unfortunately. Also, without more family-friendly rides, they miss out on a lot of elderly people, pregnant women, and people with certain conditions. And they don't all have to be spinners :P


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People keep saying there needs to be kiddy rides, but Universal isn't Disney and Disney isn't Universal.
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That's not the point. The point is having attractions that more members of the family can experience, and get more business that way. More business > more revenue > more new attractions, more enhancements, better upkeep, etc. :thumbs:
 
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I've got it...a ride/attraction based on Clash of the Titans! :lol: They already have the relationship with WB so..

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Accio Butterbeer said:
I do agree with that statement. Nobody wants Universal to turn into Disney where theres 10 spinners with the same concept just a different theme. Universal has plenty of kids stuff to do it just happens to be more THRILLING of a park. They are different parks..Universal is a kid friendly and family oriented park with coasters. I think thats the perfect mix if you ask me. And i think its appropriate to repeat what you said "Universal is not Disney and Disney is not Universal". Me, personally i dont want Universal to turn into Disney.
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Universal needs to be doing a lot more to really be catering to a family demographic. I don't really consider a spinner a family ride. Yea, the whole family may be able to ride it, but only the child is really going to love it. Where as, say Haunted Mansion, both the child and the parent will love the ride. The same goes for the majority of the MK attractions.

A family ride isn't necessarily defined by the height requirement. It's more the "experience."
 
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Accio Butterbeer said:
There is a lot of kid stuff to do at the parks. The entire Seuss land with all the attractions, Storm Force, Me Ship, The Olive, Popeye raft ride, Camp Jurassic is HUGE and the flyers, Hipogriff, Olivanders, Shrek, Despicable Me, E.T., Woody Wood Pecker and the entire KidZone, Simpsons(kids go on that),
Spiderman(most kids go on that) and not to mention the Simpsons spinner and Hogwarts Express are coming to the park. And besides the coasters all the rides are family oriented rides. Now i disagree on the kid friendly stuff you said but i agree that Universal needs a couple more family Disney like rides( Pirates, and Haunted Mansion).
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I think my version of kid rides and yours is different. Because many of those rides you can't go on until you are taller/older. So if a family of 4 comes to the park and they have a 6 year old and 3 year old, many of those rides the 3 year old could not go on. Then if you add in the fact that a family of 5 with a 6, 3, and 1 year old... the 1 year old is sad out of luck.

Yes, if you have all your kids above the age of 5 then there are way more things to do. But now you are missing a huge chunk of families with just one child that is not tall enough to get on many Universal rides. That is why Disney attracts more families than Universal and Universal wants to play with the big boys, they have to attract all ages. Just like Disney needs more thrilling rides to attract families with older kids (which many of you same people have said the same about Disney).

Do we need spinners? NO! That is not what I am saying. They need more rides that the whole family can enjoy, just like I said. Pirates, Buzz, TSM, Haunted Mansion. They also need some dark rides that will focus on the younger generation, but might not appeal to adults (but many adults like these too). These could be rides similar to what Peter Pan, LM, are to Disney. No one, including me, is asking for spinners. Because they only appeal to the very young generation and one is enough in any park. Except MK, I like the difference between orbiter and dumbo, that to me is acceptable, but magic carpet was not needed.

I am saying you can't leave out any age group and because Universal has always been a more thrilling park almost all their rides have restrictions that do not allow every age group to enjoy them. There is nothing wrong with having rides like that, but they also need the other kind if they want to attract more families to their parks.

I liked what someone else said about elderly. I agree with this too. We no longer can go to Universal when my father-in-law is in town. He is only 65, but can't ride 80% of the rides at Universal due to his back and other "old age" issues. Where we can go to MK and he CAN ride 80% of those rides. Not worth it for him to pay the money for Universal, but totally work it for MK, AK, or Epcot. My mom is the same way, Universal is a waste of money for her and she never gets an AP because she can't go on most of the stuff. She can go on more than my father-in-law can, but she is still limited.
 
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I haven't really looked at this thread closely and the most recent posts aren't even about Poseidon's Fury, so forgive me if this has been discussed before...what is wrong with Poseidon's Fury? I love it. The only thing it needs is just a little bit of updating.
 
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I haven't really looked at this thread closely and the most recent posts aren't even about Poseidon's Fury, so forgive me if this has been discussed before...what is wrong with Poseidon's Fury? I love it. The only thing it needs is just a little bit of updating.
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Yeah the look of Poseidons Fury is so impressive it would be a shame to get rid of it. I wouldnt mind if inside it was a different attraction though(keeping the water tunnel affect of course). Can you imagine if it was a impressive dark ride or inside thrill ride though? but honestly the show isnt bad i like it. Bottom line i think they should keep Poseidons Fury and Mythos. Change the rest of Lost Continent and put another ride or two. It really would liven up that island and actually make it relevant again.
 
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