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Avatar coming to DCA

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  • Start date Start date Feb 8, 2023
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  • Yesterday at 4:20 PM
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I just don't think we know enough about this project to have an idea of how long it will take, let alone how long it should take. Are they demolishing everything and building from scratch? That'll take longer. How much infrastructure work needs to happen to build a massive boat ride? My guess: Quite a bit! Are they building new restaurants? Will they be able to keep the existing bathrooms or will they need to build more? Every project is different and comes with unique challenges. We'll see how it all plays out.
 
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Jake S said:
I just don't think we know enough about this project to have an idea of how long it will take, let alone how long it should take. Are they demolishing everything and building from scratch? That'll take longer. How much infrastructure work needs to happen to build a massive boat ride? My guess: Quite a bit! Are they building new restaurants? Will they be able to keep the existing bathrooms or will they need to build more? Every project is different and comes with unique challenges. We'll see how it all plays out.
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If only Disney had a fan event where they could detail future plans at the resort, lol

I somewhat understand it but also it sucks to lose so much of DCA land with nothing to replace it

I know the land sucks but monster eats people, Philhare is a wonderful place to take a break in and normally they have a few meet and greet characters that good size lines there


It just sucks if this is going to take 4 years....like use the Disney Forward area. Its to me kinda insane they got the ok to use all this land and they are like first thing use up land with attractions on it....to make something instead?
Disney just seems to take its time with new projects compared to Disney before (I mean look at the year long work on Pixie Hollow) or Mr Lincoln being shut down for 16 months
 
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  • Yesterday at 4:35 PM
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I don't see Avatar being done till 2029-2030. It's going to take awhile
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If you want to believe Disney's words, they expect all of these announced projects sometime by the end of 2029. Not the worst timeline for a beautiful project.

Jerroddragon said:
Fair enough on the DK comment

But I mean this ride....I think is a boat ride?

We will see but if its over 3 years its a bit much, Disney for sure has been building things slower now then in the past and universal for sure has been building things quicker
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It's a complex ride system that requires a lot of foundation/infrastructure work. Let alone all the work that has to be done elsewhere in the resort to prep for crowds.

Jake S said:
I just don't think we know enough about this project to have an idea of how long it will take, let alone how long it should take. Are they demolishing everything and building from scratch? That'll take longer. How much infrastructure work needs to happen to build a massive boat ride? My guess: Quite a bit! Are they building new restaurants? Will they be able to keep the existing bathrooms or will they need to build more? Every project is different and comes with unique challenges. We'll see how it all plays out.
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I think people are underestimating the complexity of this project. If they keep their word of 2029 target, starting in 2026... it's only a 3 year build. Impressive for a land that is expected to have really good rockwork and an impressive dark ride. The monorail doesn't seem to be moving, so they have to literally build around it.
 
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  • Yesterday at 9:53 PM
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Didn’t they say Avatar was still in early development so it seems they aren’t very far along in the design process.
 
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  • Yesterday at 10:22 PM
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Didn’t they say Avatar was still in early development so it seems they aren’t very far along in the design process.
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Monsters Inc is gonna close February next year. Doubt they’re gonna close it and let it sit there.
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
...end of 2029. Not the worst timeline for a beautiful project.

...It's a complex ride system that requires a lot of foundation/infrastructure work.

...it's only a 3 year build. Impressive for a land that is expected to have really good rockwork and an impressive dark ride.
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I'm just extremely cautious about takes like this. We don't even know if we're getting a proper land with decent vistas like Animal Kingdom. While I don't think James Cameron will allow them to really skimp on the scenic quality, I genuinely still struggle to see how this will all fit together at the end of the day without taking the enclosed Super Mario/Donkey Kong approach at Universal, which I don't think would be as effective for this project.

But, as always, I would love to be wrong about everything...
 
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  • Today at 10:41 AM
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Didn’t they say Avatar was still in early development so it seems they aren’t very far along in the design process.
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I think people forget how dry WDI was during the Chapek CEO years. There was very little in development at the time with no master plan in place since nothing was getting approved. There was no indication from corporate leadership that the parks were going to be "turbocharged" at the time. Disney+ was the focus, and the future of Disney. Very little, if anything, was in development.

The D23 parks panel in 2022 was primarily blue sky because there were no commitments. There's a reason why those "beyond thunder" and initial Dinoland concepts were vague... nothing was decided on yet. It wasn't until Iger came back later that year when the parks division got the greenlight to go.

From late 2022 (when Iger returned) to early 2026, a 3 year turnaround time for design & development is not the worst timeline. I wish they could move faster, but it's not the worse we've seen from Disney lol

queenmetroid said:
I'm just extremely cautious about takes like this. We don't even know if we're getting a proper land with decent vistas like Animal Kingdom. While I don't think James Cameron will allow them to really skimp on the scenic quality, I genuinely still struggle to see how this will all fit together at the end of the day without taking the enclosed Super Mario/Donkey Kong approach at Universal, which I don't think would be as effective for this project.

But, as always, I would love to be wrong about everything...
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There's a reason to be cautious with Disney's construction builds... but they do build fast when they want to. Phase 1 of New Fantasyland took 3 years, Star Wars Land took ~3.2 years, Cars Land took 3.6 years. Starting construction in 2026 aligns with a 2029 opening (I can be wrong of course).

Regarding "scope" of the project, if the land sticks between the existing Hollywood area and monorail beam, they have about ~165 feet to play with. When you make that turn into Pandora at DAK where you first see the floating mountains, the distance is about ~200 ft., so they definitely have a lot of room to play with.

Flight of Passage's mountain range façade is roughly 350 ft. from Na'vi to exit ramps, from the old Muppet*Vision theater to Stage 12, you have a little over 310 ft. in space... there's definitely enough room here. You can fit New Orleans Square in this area.

While DCA's might not get floating mountains at the scale of DAK, it might get rockwork/theming all around the perimeter of the land which DAK doesn't.
 
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  • Today at 10:44 AM
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Ironman Flatride 2026?
Avengers 2027?
Coco 2028?
Avatar 2029?
 
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