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Coco Ride Coming to Mexico Pavilion?

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I'm pretty sure the budget for Frozen was higher than 75 million, I thought it was 120 million for the ride and meet and greet.
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A quick search of the forums over there has the $75 million being noted as the budget for the whole Norway project.
 
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I don't see Coco doing big numbers. I think it will be another "good dinosaur". Most families will see it, but it won't be a film that garners a ton of adult business, or repeat viewings. I mean Moana was fantastic, and that didn't do THAT great either. Frozen set the bar really, really high for future Disney films. At least on a revenue standpoint.
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Moana made 600+ million worldwide. Even below Frozen standards it still made a lot of money. I also don't expect Coco to be Good Dinosaur-level. Good Dinosaur was plagued by terrible marketing and poor word of mouth. The general consensus on Coco so far is positive and there seems to be much more marketing.
 
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I don't see Coco doing big numbers. I think it will be another "good dinosaur". Most families will see it, but it won't be a film that garners a ton of adult business, or repeat viewings. I mean Moana was fantastic, and that didn't do THAT great either. Frozen set the bar really, really high for future Disney films. At least on a revenue standpoint.
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Coco is already breaking box office records in Mexico. It has very little competition this holiday season for family films. It should be fine.
 
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Coco is already breaking box office records in Mexico. It has very little competition this holiday season for family films. It should be fine.
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... in Mexico.

I'm not sold on it being a hit in the states with how little word of mouth I'm seeing.
 
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The last part of my statement is referring to its American release.
 
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I think we can all agree it won't be as good as Book of Life :)
 
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I feel like I can disagree with that. The reviews might too: Coco (2017) - Rotten Tomatoes
 
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The reason there's not much US word of mouth yet is because it's not out here until the end of the month. If the early impressions are anything to go by, it's Pixar back on their game once again so I think Coco has the potential to be a hit.
 
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I feel like I can disagree with that. The reviews might too: Coco (2017) - Rotten Tomatoes
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I'll have to see it first, of course.
Note: Almost all of the 14 reviews are from Mexicans. And while Disney love is real, and I'll enjoy it immensely (in particular in my household of hispanics), what can beat a mariachi version Radiohead's "Creep" ;)
 
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Coco is certainly a bit more authentic than a film that has Channing Tatum and Ice Cube as their leads and a bunch of contemporary music from American writers but maybe that's just me! :shrug:
 
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Coco is certainly a bit more authentic than a film that has Channing Tatum and Ice Cube as their leads and a bunch of contemporary music from American writers but maybe that's just me! :shrug:
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So we're arguing a point that was never brought up? Unless I missed it and I said one film was more authentic than the other?

Regardless- when, again, did authentic = better?

But clearly being not authentic and using American actors means that movies automatically are inferior. Right?

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I just don't think "The Book of Life" is the be-all end-all Dias de Los Muertos movie everybody is claiming it is, that's all.

(and I don't think it's all that great either tbh)
 
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Coco is already breaking box office records in Mexico. It has very little competition this holiday season for family films. It should be fine.
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Little Competition? Have you heard of this franchise called STAR WARS?.

Like I said, the film will do well with families, like all Disney films, but it's not going to draw many "adult or teen" viewers.
 
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Little Competition? Have you heard of this franchise called STAR WARS?
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Are you insinuating that Disney put out "The Last Jedi" three weeks later to give competition to "Coco", a film that they're also distributing? Because that's not the way the demographics or box office work.
 
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Its too ethnic to be a worldwide hit compared to other Disney films.

I think it will do fine in the US but don't expect Frozen or even Moana level numbers for this film in WW Box office numbers.
 
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Are you insinuating that Disney put out "The Last Jedi" three weeks later to give competition to "Coco", a film that they're also distributing? Because that's not the way the demographics or box office work.
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Coco may do more business from double features with SW than it does on it's own. :-X
 
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High-100's sounds about right for Coco domestically. Hype is nowhere near a lot of previous Pixar movies, but this is the movie for families over Thanksgiving. It's also the first animated movie that will have a decent gross since The Emoji Movie, which was 3 and a half months ago. Worldwide is a different story, but it should be good for a total around 400-500M.
 
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The field is wide, wide, wide open for Coco. The market is starved for a quality animated pic. I wouldn't call the Emoji movie a decent gross.

Also I would not ignore the fact that this contains a sizeable Frozen short film.

Ferdinand is the only thing that could chase this out of theatres for the holidays, but I feel like Coco will still perform well through that period.
 
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The field is wide, wide, wide open for Coco. The market is starved for a quality animated pic. I wouldn't call the Emoji movie a decent gross.

Also I would not ignore the fact that this contains a sizeable Frozen short film.

Ferdinand is the only thing that could chase this out of theatres for the holidays, but I feel like Coco will still perform well through that period.
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The Frozen short got cut due to so many Mexican parents complaining about it.

Cadenas de cines te escuchan: verás 'Coco' sin el corto de Frozen | Excélsior
 
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The Frozen short got cut due to so many Mexican parents complaining about it.

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Maybe in Mexico that's the case, but every search i've done still shows that it's opening in front of Coco (not even one article about it getting cut).

The short will then premiere on ABC in December.
 
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