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Wizarding World of Harry Potter - Ministry of Magic - General Discussion Thread

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Higgledy ... love that they are introducing an all new character in this ride
 
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My fear is that the more a ride becomes "advanced" the more chances it has to break down. I hope I am wrong but I remember the down times for Gringotts. And from the sounds of it the Ministry Ride is going to be more complex than that.
 
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suites in place cacheé?? Or has that never been spoken of and a crazy rumor?
 
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Loki said:
My fear is that the more a ride becomes "advanced" the more chances it has to break down. I hope I am wrong but I remember the down times for Gringotts. And from the sounds of it the Ministry Ride is going to be more complex than that.
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It's why they've already been testing most of the rides (True Gringotts had issues, but FJ didn't and that was brand new tech too. There had been robotic arms, but none mounted on a vehicle driving itself around)
 
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It's why they've already been testing most of the rides (True Gringotts had issues, but FJ didn't and that was brand new tech too. There had been robotic arms, but none mounted on a vehicle driving itself around)
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FJ had it's fair share of down time, at first, as well. It just happens, it is what it is.
 
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The positive take I can give is these rides are meant to entertain and wow for decades, not the first few months. Just work things out as best you can. I certainly don’t want them to ever be less ambitious due to being worried the ride being down too much.
 
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Cup_Of_Coffee said:
The positive take I can give is these rides are meant to entertain and wow for decades, not the first few months. Just work things out as best you can. I certainly don’t want them to ever be less ambitious due to being worried the ride being down too much.
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Agreed. Push the boundaries and get uncomfortable. Out of pain comes growth.
 
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Before anyone thinks I am bad mouthing advanced rides. I'm not. I think we constantly need to be WOWed. And while there will always be hiccups at the start, things like that get ironed out and we learn from those happy accidents (to use a Bob Ross phrase). I'm sure the first roller coasters had problems but look how far they have evolved.

I just hope Universal budgets enough time to get there before the park opens. Which they kind of have to do to get the rides certified by regulating agencies I believe.
 
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FJ had it's fair share of down time, at first, as well. It just happens, it is what it is.
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Very little... I went almost daily and could always get on FJ. Hagrid's on the other hand...
 
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FJ had some early hiccups. Gringott's had major downtime early on, but they worked it out. Hagrid's has had more downtime and continuing issues (Intamin?).

Each major Potter attraction has become more complex/cutting edge resulting in more "technical difficulties".

Based on what came before, (FJ, Gringott's, and Hagrid's), I am excited to see what Universal Creative is gonna throw at us, downtimes and all.
 
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FJ had some early hiccups. Gringott's had major downtime early on, but they worked it out. Hagrid's has had more downtime and continuing issues (Intamin?).

Each major Potter attraction has become more complex/cutting edge resulting in more "technical difficulties".

Based on what came before, (FJ, Gringott's, and Hagrid's), I am excited to see what Universal Creative is gonna throw at us, downtimes and all.
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Hagrid's is worth every bit of trouble that that ride has caused the engineers at Universal Orlando, and more. I would say the same thing of Rise at WDW. I imagine this will be all the same.
 
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Sacre` Bleu!!!
 
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I somehow missed that Ministry of Magic is the actual official name for the land — isn’t that super weird? Will anyone call it that?

Then again, this is an IP where each Wizarding World land is commonly referred to as a theme park named “Harry Potter World”.
 
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I somehow missed that Ministry of Magic is the actual official name for the land — isn’t that super weird? Will anyone call it that?

Then again, this is an IP where each Wizarding World land is commonly referred to as a theme park named “Harry Potter World”.
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In my travels, people usually either call it "Ministry", "Paris", or something like "the Epic Universe Potter land". Those seem to be the colloquial shortened terms that I've heard.
 
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I've been trying to make Potter Paris Pals happen, but so far, no traction.
 
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In my travels, people usually either call it "Ministry", "Paris", or something like "the Epic Universe Potter land". Those seem to be the colloquial shortened terms that I've heard.
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Yeah, I have to imagine I’ll just be calling it Paris. I wonder what TMs will call it; it’d get confusing to tell people looking for Cirque that it’s located in “Ministry of Magic” when a ride called Battle for the Ministry exists. It’d be like if Disney called Galaxy’s Edge “Star Wars — Millenium Falcon”.
 
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DarkMetroid567 said:
Yeah, I have to imagine I’ll just be calling it Paris. I wonder what TMs will call it; it’d get confusing to tell people looking for Cirque that it’s located in “Ministry of Magic” when a ride called Battle for the Ministry exists. It’d be like if Disney called Galaxy’s Edge “Star Wars — Millenium Falcon”.
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You’re right, but I wouldn’t say that comparison is exactly the same… more like if the land was set on Hoth and the main attraction was called Battle of Hoth. I hope people can discern the two, but I wouldn’t put anything past casual park goers lol.
 
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The phoenix has risen:
 
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Chatted with a few folks who aren't following the Epic news -- but they had questions when they saw the headlines about a new Wizarding World. Many still don't realize Diagon Alley exists (or that it's in a separate park). Some were concerned this meant they were getting rid of the original Wizarding World build. Upon explaining the breakdown, a frequent reaction I got was "when did we see Wizarding World Paris...?" followed by "I thought the Ministry of Magic was in London?"

At the end of the day, if the area looks great (and by all accounts it will), this won't necessarily matter... but good to remind ourselves of how the general public sees and reacts to this news, at least anecdotally.
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I have had the same reaction from friends an family who are casual/mainstream Harry Potter fans and who have gotten enough info on this EU land to react "Huh? Don't get it."

For folks who don't understand why others are bothered, maybe this helps: imagine watching an exciting action scene in a Mission Impossible movie...but with the entirely wrong movie score, a sad moody dirge. It wouldn't be "as effective" as it is with the original exciting music. Some may argue "Who cares? It's the same scene! You still see all the same action, get over it." Others are disappointed or confused why the entertainment is "off." Nobody is wrong, it's all quite subjective.

Beyond the theme/timeline mix, the name is also potentially confusing. Calling the land "Ministry of Magic" when the "land" is clearly Paris, is arguably unfortunate or limiting. Yes, we see the MoM in the "main" attraction, but there's also a significant magical show that has nothing to do with the Ministry. What will happen when they add another attraction... will it be another attraction unrelated to the Ministry land name?

I do hope any future third attraction or restaurant involves the French MoM to substantiate the land's name. And I would love it if they tied the whole land together in some way, for example an underlying story about how Delores Umbridge's grandparent was part of Le Cirque Arcanus where he/she dabbled with the dark arts and that's what set the direction for the Umbridge family...and maybe there's an artifact he/she left from that era in Paris that Delores needs, like a time-turner. This could be conveyed by queue and restaurant props, window shop displays, old faded posters...like a backstory treasure hunt.

I know that the vast majority of guests wouldn't care or appreciate it (like most Disney Parks fans don't know about the Society of Explorers and Adventurers), but I think there's an upside in having deep Wizarding World fans feeling even better, even more excited about this land and Epic Universe in general. Story continuity and canon are important in deep fan-ships like this. In fact, there's a possibility of turning lemons into lemonade and coming up with a cool, intriguing backstory that makes the entire experience in the land feel like being part of a mysterious discoverable storyline that cleverly bridges the era of Fantastic Beasts to the era of Harry Potter.
 
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