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The Mandalorian & Grogu (Film)

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Hey man, a very loud corner of the Internet went on and on about how they wanted more of this Dave Filoni crap. Hope those people are enjoying it!
 
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I’ve just started cooking this take so forgive me…

But I’m not sure the box office performance here is 100% a Star Wars issue.

Full disclosure: I do think Disney screwed up Star Wars. I loved Last Jedi, hated Force Awakens, and have essentially written Rise of Skywalker off as fan fiction. I don’t even like “good” Disney Star Wars (Rogue One is a bland and undercooked and I just can’t get into Andor).

With that being said, there’s merit to having a movie like Mandalorian & Grogu added to the theatrical Star Wars canon. It’s not slavishly tied to the Skywalker family or any legacy characters, it’s devoid of any politics, and it’s in the mold of a fun old serial. By all accounts, that’s what makes Star Wars, Star Wars.

I think there’s more to the underperformance here. Yes, everyone’s a little burned by Star Wars, but I think moviegoer habits have more to do with this than anything. It’s not like the movie’s losing money to another franchise blockbuster…it’s losing to indie horror movies. And it’s not like this is unique to Star Wars. Fantastic Four last summer was disappointing. Superman last summer was disappointing.

Clearly audiences still have an appetite for movies, evident by Obsession and Backrooms. But are those audiences the same mass audiences that were showing out for Force Awakens, Infinity War, etc.? I think the dynamic has changed…you’re now getting throngs of “movie fans” rather than “populist entertainment fans,” and generic blockbuster spectacle doesn’t appeal to that new group. It’s unique stories, smart writing, clever plot set-ups, etc. that bring people in (also see the performance of Marty Supreme this year vs Uncut Gems in 2019 as just one example). You need some buzz on Letterboxd, not Access Hollywood, to get some box office traction these days.

So while this movie is a disappointment I think this marks a really good trend for movies overall. The message being sent is that there’s a group that’ll keep theaters alive…but that group wants your small/mid-budget originals. It’s like a massive course correction from the peak of the MCU. I’m personally here for it, even if it means sacrificing theatrical Star Wars content.
 
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OrlandoGuy said:
Clearly audiences still have an appetite for movies, evident by Obsession and Backrooms. But are those audiences the same mass audiences that were showing out for Force Awakens, Infinity War, etc.? I think the dynamic has changed…you’re now getting throngs of “movie fans” rather than “populist entertainment fans,” and generic blockbuster spectacle doesn’t appeal to that new group. It’s unique stories, smart writing, clever plot set-ups, etc. that bring people in (also see the performance of Marty Supreme this year vs Uncut Gems in 2019 as just one example). You need some buzz on Letterboxd, not Access Hollywood, to get some box office traction these days.

So while this movie is a disappointment I think this marks a really good trend for movies overall. The message being sent is that there’s a group that’ll keep theaters alive…but that group wants your small/mid-budget originals. It’s like a massive course correction from the peak of the MCU. I’m personally here for it, even if it means sacrificing theatrical Star Wars content.
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Never underestimate the ability of studio execs to develop the wrong takeaway of what made a film a hit, especially if Toy Story 5, Minions & Monsters, and Moana do as well as expected.
 
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Never underestimate the ability of studio execs to develop the wrong takeaway of what made a film a hit, especially if Toy Story 5, Minions & Monsters, and Moana do as well as expected.
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I think kids movies operate under different rules. Film bros that made Obsession, Weapons, Project Hail Mary, etc. hits aren’t the target audience for those—babysitters are lol
 
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Hey man, a very loud corner of the Internet went on and on about how they wanted more of this Dave Filoni crap. Hope those people are enjoying it!
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The thing is when Dave can cook then he is great

The Clone Wars finale was amazing, Rebels has some amazing stories Mando Season 1/2 for me are some of the best Star Wars ever...but then it feels like it just got lazy with no passion

Ashoka was fine but really only the Villain (Baylan) stood out, even Thrawn felt...like off. Its getting to the point where they just through in Embo because.....like the Canon was he retired with his space dog....but then randomly he is back and if like this was a big mission then cool but feels like Embo is here because they want fans like me to say "ohhh cool" but then the fights are with him are kind of boring and soulless and could have been any bounty hunter

But Mando since season 3 has done two things I'm not a fan of, making the characters talk to much (the first season especially allowed for quiet moments) and second just throwing Cameo's of celebrities or characters in it because people like Luke and Boba episodes were so well loved in season 2...but Like Boba and Luke have reasons to be in the show

I love Zeb but he has nothing to do int his film, he is here to sell toys

I just think they need to try to make Star Wars special again, I think there is room for Bad Batch and Maul, its cool to get more in dept looks into the Universe but the movies just need to feel like events and I think this film could have but instead just took an episode or two from the TV show and made a movie and while it worked for Moana 2 thats a gltich and normally people have a little better standards then that
 
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The thing is when Dave can cook then he is great
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I think the first two seasons of Mandalorian are mostly very good. And ... that is the end of my compliments for the work of Dave Filoni. (Obviously, just personal opinion — enjoy what you want)
 
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