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Indiana Jones Ride at Disney Hollywood Studios?

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The best of USH? What would they really have that's amazing that we don't besides the tram tour and WaterWorld? Are they building it into a hill?
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I believe Joe means more on how Hollywoods theming has exponentially improved immensely since Universal Plaza opened for that case. Because since then, you've had the highly themed Springfield and Despicable Me. Counting other projects in the works.

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The Universal park in China will make SHDL look hilariously bad. I mean, it won't have as many unique things, but imagine if the best of IoA and USF and USH were plussed and added to that park.
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In all fairness, Shanghai will atleast have something to make it unique but I agree entirely. It will absolutely make SHDL look like a rip-off china park, considering the crap they may be pulling for it.
 
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I wonder if Trowbridge has any regrets leaving Uni for Disney? As an American, I cannot imagine any pleasure in designing the next great mega ride attraction for a Communist Chinese only audience. Call me too patriotic.
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Teebin, you are too patriotic. ;)
 
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Eh, if Universal Studios Singapore is anyway to judge, it's a lot of stuff that we have here. Most of the unique attractions are B and C tickets.
 
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The best of USH? What would they really have that's amazing that we don't besides the tram tour and WaterWorld? Are they building it into a hill?
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A better Springfield and Super Silly Fun Land are about all I can think of.

Oh, and Disney won't bring the Indy ride to Orlando with what Kong is bringing to the table.
 
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testtrack321 said:
The Universal park in China will make SHDL look hilariously bad. I mean, it won't have as many unique things, but imagine if the best of IoA and USF and USH were plussed and added to that park.
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Why is everything a competition? SDL looks great, Uni Beijing rumours sound great.

Can't they both just be great?
 
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people are ripping into sdl because they keep throwing more and more money into it and the Florida parks which Disney has stated is the main Disney parks is falling apart and now they raised ticket prices twice this year.sdl will be a decent park yes but with Disney putting in over a billion dollars is decent all Disney can do nowadays.
 
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deathcab4cutie said:
people are ripping into sdl because they keep throwing more and more money into it and the Florida parks which Disney has stated is the main Disney parks is falling apart and now they raised ticket prices twice this year.sdl will be a decent park yes but with Disney putting in over a billion dollars is decent all Disney can do nowadays.
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Disney has billions on the table at WDW between Disney Springs, Avatar and the upcoming DHS stuff (And that's just attractions/shopping... they usually put in about a billion per year in maintenance).

They've put in about 4-5 Billion at SDL.
 
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Disney has billions on the table at WDW between Disney Springs, Avatar and the upcoming DHS stuff (And that's just attractions/shopping... they usually put in about a billion per year in maintenance).

They've put in about 4-5 Billion at SDL.
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At this point, after 15 years of neglect, Disney has no choice but to dump billions into WDW. And yet, the 'rails are still held together by duct tape, DHS is still the worst top shelf theme park on the planet, and MK is still bursting at the seams.

At least now, they acknowledge they have a problem and are finally taking action. But NOTHING is going to fix it but a boat load of money and about 5 years of pleading for patience.

The frustrating part is that it didn't have to be this way. This is costing them a lot more than it would have if they had built through the recession while labor and supplies were cheap and they would have been ready for the pent up vacation demand we see now that the recession is over. But they chose this path and have to deal with the repercussions like over crowding, shuttering 3/5ths of one park, and DtD is still a wreck 8 years after plyboarding the place up.

We will end up with a "Disney Quality" product, but what is there today is far from it.

My favorite part of this whole story is how TDO laughed at Universal for their stupid business model of expanding during the recession. Well, who was caught with their pants down, and who is making bank?
 
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At this point, after 15 years of neglect, Disney has no choice but to dump billions into WDW. And yet, the 'rails are still held together by duct tape, DHS is still the worst top shelf theme park on the planet, and MK is still bursting at the seams.

At least now, they acknowledge they have a problem and are finally taking action. But NOTHING is going to fix it but a boat load of money and about 5 years of pleading for patience.

The frustrating part is that it didn't have to be this way. This is costing them a lot more than it would have if they had built through the recession while labor and supplies were cheap and they would have been ready for the pent up vacation demand we see now that the recession is over. But they chose this path and have to deal with the repercussions like over crowding, shuttering 3/5ths of one park, and DtD is still a wreck 8 years after plyboarding the place up.

We will end up with a "Disney Quality" product, but what is there today is far from it.

My favorite part of this whole story is how TDO laughed at Universal for their stupid business model of expanding during the recession. Well, who was caught with their pants down, and who is making bank?
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This is incredibly important. It's lack of investment over the years post DAK.
 
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This is incredibly important. It's lack of investment over the years post DAK.
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I think its more of a case of misplaced investment. Look at all money that went into DVC and the MM+ fiasco over those years. They were chasing the dollars the visitors were bringing in rather than keeping their house in order.
 
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I think its more of a case of misplaced investment. Look at all money that went into DVC and the MM+ fiasco over those years. They were chasing the dollars the visitors were bringing in rather than keeping their house in order.
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MM+ was created to spread guests around to other, less attended attractions instead of building new ones. Not saying NO new attractions were built, but there was a fall off historically.
 
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Yabbadabba Doh said:
I think its more of a case of misplaced investment. Look at all money that went into DVC and the MM+ fiasco over those years. They were chasing the dollars the visitors were bringing in rather than keeping their house in order.
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DVC makes them money (lots of it) and always will. That's why the DVC projects go up at Universal speed, while everything else gets built at Disney speed.
 
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DVC makes them money (lots of it) and always will. That's why the DVC projects go up at Universal speed, while everything else gets built at Disney speed.
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But that can't last forever.
 
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But that can't last forever.
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Agreed, they need to begin reinvesting in the parks and cleaning up their infrastructure. The monorail system at WDW is really starting showing its age.
 
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But that can't last forever.
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Actually, it can, that's the idea. They have all that money from people buying in and then steady payments from those members every year. That's why time shares are so profitable. The people who buy in have a legal obligation to pay every year and if they fail to the company sues them. So, while there may be recessions and other things that can cause dips in business, the money keeps rolling in predictably from DVC.

As for the Monorail, Disney management says they expect those trains to go another 20 years (despite the fact they are older than any other fleet of monorails Disney has ever run). They claim they cannot get a company to only build 12 trains so they can't afford to replace them any time soon. With no ROI from them, there's no will or way to get the company to make the huge investment.
 
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Actually, it can, that's the idea. They have all that money from people buying in and then steady payments from those members every year. That's why time shares are so profitable. The people who buy in have a legal obligation to pay every year and if they fail to the company sues them. So, while there may be recessions and other things that can cause dips in business, the money keeps rolling in predictably from DVC.

As for the Monorail, Disney management says they expect those trains to go another 20 years (despite the fact they are older than any other fleet of monorails Disney has ever run). They claim they cannot get a company to only build 12 trains so they can't afford to replace them any time soon. With no ROI from them, there's no will or way to get the company to make the huge investment.
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1.) But they cannot. Yes I get contracts, but defaults do cost the company money and there are not an infinite amount of people who want to pay to remember how great Disney was.

2.) Bullshit. Explain Disneyland's new trains then. Or any place that gets new trains. They don't want to spend the money to get them. The WDW monorail system is the punchline to the joke.
 
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1.) But they cannot. Yes I get contracts, but defaults do cost the company money and there are not an infinite amount of people who want to pay to remember how great Disney was.

2.) Bullshit. Explain Disneyland's new trains then. Or any place that gets new trains. They don't want to spend the money to get them. The WDW monorail system is the punchline to the joke.
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They should just graffiti the 'rails up and call it theming.
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speaking of monorail if the overhaul ends up being a success not only will they have to build a bigger parking lot but more and more guest will demand a monorail to what ever the park is gonna be called in the future especially if the distance from Epcot to Hollywood studios is only a few miles away.they could just have you board a monorail from Epcot
 
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Goodness people, create a monorail thread or something :lol:

And why is a Indiana Jones ride at DHS thread even a thing? It's never happening.
 
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Sorry, my infrastructure comment started that.
Given the expansion proposed to DHS, however, does beg the question of whether a new Indy ride could be part of the phase 3 work.
There is still some talk about an Indy reboot at some point.

Back on topic? (LOL)
 
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