Man, I really, really must be in the minority because I thought the express passes worked better last year for us than they did for the previous few years we've been. Granted, we went mid October last year so maybe they have had time to figure it out. And also, we tended to not join lines when they were above 100 minutes but 90 or so minutes and below, we never waited more than 25 minutes. I think that's a pretty fair trade off. I wouldn't dare ever go to the even without them anymore simply because we are only there for a week.