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Halloween Horror Nights 30 (UOR) - Speculation & Rumors (2021)

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Shinigami

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  • Jan 22, 2021
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Living Dead Dude said:
I think it's more of an issue of universal associating themselves with a film that has that kind of extremely graphic and arguably tasteless imagery. Even if the house itself does not feature those scenes it is still featuring the property itself which has those scenes.
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I mean they did Hostel once (not sure if it was only in Hollywood)
 
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Can we please put the Art the Clown conversation on the Wish List page

After all, Jack is back this year
 
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  • Jan 22, 2021
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Shinigami said:
I mean they did Hostel once (not sure if it was only in Hollywood)
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Hostel along with Saw were the mainstream successes in the torture porn sub genre, so unfortunately I can kinda see why they’d choose to utilize films like that.

I still don’t see why they’d ever tap into the Terrifier franchise, but, to each their own.

Edit: I just wanna clarify my stance a little more, I agree with what @Living Dead Dude said about my comment being more about Universal not associating themselves with films that are generally so much more violent then your average, mainstream horror movie, and something that’s so deeply, in your face, no holds barred misogynistic. However, I also was genuinely curious how a fan of that franchise would water it down enough to make it into an HHN house.
 
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  • Jan 22, 2021
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kingcooger said:
Can we please put the Art the Clown conversation on the Wish List page

After all, Jack is back this year
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Well, it wasn't a total Wish List item - we were speculating what might go into Shrek and I was postulating that another 80s film doesn't make as much sense as something like Silence of the Lambs OR a more recent, less expensive IP property like Terrifier or You're Next.
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However, I also was genuinely curious how a fan of that franchise would water it down enough to make it into an HHN house.
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I've never written scene by scene house stuff, but here's kind of how I'd do it. Then I won't mention Terrifier again so people don't get upset about Wish List stuff:
1-Start in the pizza parlor. Maybe have Art sitting in the booth and a blonde girl sitting on his lap taking a selfie or something.
2-Walk down the hallway INTO the bathroom that says Art on the wall in brown.
3-Back through pizza parlor with head-o-lantern
4-Through to the apartments where you're stalked by Art carrying his bag of tools
5-The pest control worker steps out to help you and Art hits him with a hammer
6-Head down to the basement where you have a stationary fake doll of the other pest control worker lying on the ground decapitated
7-Cat Lady jumps out at you at some point in the basement with the baby doll in her arms saying something creepy about Art
8-Continue to be stalked by Art in boo holes, and at some point have him on a tricycle riding around in circles
9-Art actor "eating the face" of a doll of Vicky and police come in and shoot him (shooting like Hopper in Stranger Things house)
10-Final room through the morgue where Art rises and strangles the medical examiner.

To answer your question, that would be a rough idea of how I'd write a treatment to make it into an HHN house. Now that I've answered that, I'll drop the Terrifier portion but still speculate that they won't put another 80's house into Shrek.
 
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  • Jan 22, 2021
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Let's avoid doing excessive armchair creative as a means of arguing whether a maze is possible... especially when that isn't really the reason why a Terrifier maze is fairly unlikely.
 
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  • Jan 22, 2021
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SOTL has been on my wishlist since the first time I went, so I am for it.

I heard from someone (credible) that Gremlins actually never was even considered for last years event and got on the Spec map for other reasons he wasn't aware of.
I am not too sure how accurate that is but I am sure someone here will tell me.

Just ball parking it here, if they ever at one point wanted to keep Billie's spot music related could they just stick Hellbilly Deluxe there and give it the Trick R Treatment?
Maybe cost effective too if they want to reuse the props from the scare zone. Rob Zombie also does not seem like a headache to secure quickly given his history with the event.
 
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Video games are not as popular as movies and shows, but a well done house can be a huge success no matter what the IP is. Scarecrow, American Werwolf, and Krampus are examples of lesser known Ip's or completely original concepts that are known to be great houses. As long as the team behind the house is passionate on creating something special the concept isn't always the biggest factor.
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I'm going to take issue with American Werewolf being a "lesser known" IP. It's one of the most-popular standalone horror movies of the 80s, and a landmark for many reasons.
 
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  • Jan 22, 2021
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Clive said:
Let's avoid doing excessive armchair creative as a means of arguing whether a maze is possible... especially when that isn't really the reason why a Terrifier maze is fairly unlikely.
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Sorry I asked!
 
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  • Jan 22, 2021
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Most horror properties could be made into at least decent houses with very few exceptions. I wouldn't be surprised to see a Jaws house in the distant future. A Cannibal Holocaust house could work just as well as a Jaws house, if not better. But we need to remember that this is an event hosted at Universal Studios Orlando, and largely meant for a more general audience than most haunts. There are still lines too far, and IP's need to have some mass appeal to be included. Gritty hard R and X rated horror, especially those with largely cult followings, don't have much of a place at HHN.
 
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Terrifier seems like way too much of a niche, cult film that just doesn't have any 'fun Halloween-y vibes' to be viewed as a potential IP house.

I've never personally even seen the movie and I have very few restrictions on my horror movie diet. The only thing I see touted about it is how crazily violent it is, the actor who plays Art is good and that's about it. Hatchet is a supremely violent franchise but still has an air of 'fun' and cheese to it.

Anyway, the conversation on an Eilish replacement is moot because Ghostbusters: Afterlife is coming in November of this year now so we'll need to make space for another GB house, please. (And no, I don't believe another GB house would ever happen, as much as I, a lover of all things GB, want it to.)
 
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  • Jan 22, 2021
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Clive said:
Let's avoid doing excessive armchair creative as a means of arguing whether a maze is possible... especially when that isn't really the reason why a Terrifier maze is fairly unlikely.
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Sorry I was just answering Allison who I like talking with on here. That's why I prefaced with "I won't talk about it after this". Carry on...
 
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Allison said:
Sorry I asked!
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All good - it can just quickly snowball into "well here's my armchair 10 scene breakdown of an xyz property that you're saying isn't doable," and we have separate threads for that!

I do agree with you - Terrifier is way too down the grindhouse niche rabbithole to qualify for Horror Nights, even if the character itself does well on merch.
 
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Green Inferno house or I'm cancelling my pass
 
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A Serbian Maze...
 
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A Serbian Maze...
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Here’s a thread strictly for horror movie discussions if anyone wants to talk about just the films themselves...

Horror Movies Thread

Let’s discuss all things horror films! Please use this thread to share your favorite scary movies, recommendations, or maybe some horror films you’re looking forward to seeing.
forums.insideuniversal.net forums.insideuniversal.net
 
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My question is, would a 3D maze be out of the question due to COVID concerns?

If they want to conserve budget, 3D seems the way to go.

As well, we have had three events without a 3D house, so it has been a while.

I wouldn’t expect them to just rebuild Asylum in Wonderland, but I could see a new 3D house here.
 
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kingcooger said:
My question is, would a 3D maze be out of the question due to COVID concerns?

If they want to conserve budget, 3D seems the way to go.

As well, we have had three events without a 3D house, so it has been a while.

I wouldn’t expect them to just rebuild Asylum in Wonderland, but I could see a new 3D house here.
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To be fair, the last time we had this kind of replacement event...the Conjuring to HIVE probably? (Tooth Fairy to Us was different as that was switching to an established property.) They didn’t do it then, and they’ve dropped the 3D house since 26 basically.
 
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  • Jan 23, 2021
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kingcooger said:
My question is, would a 3D maze be out of the question due to COVID concerns?
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If you mean because of the glasses, no, they just "recycle" those in trash bins at the end of the house. They're the cheap cardboard kind, not the nice plastic ones on the rides.

Wonderland worked as well as any house has in that Shrek space, so an interesting, potentially cost-effective thought.But if we're talking cheap houses, if the new team ever wanted a challenge, it would be a remake of "Cold Blind Terror" that actually succeeds in being scary.
 
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To be fair, the last time we had this kind of replacement event...the Conjuring to HIVE probably? (Tooth Fairy to Us was different as that was switching to an established property.) They didn’t do it then, and they’ve dropped the 3D house since 26 basically.
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This is not entirely accurate as Eilish was taken out entirely

As in, they are not building a new house out of already established sets

From my understanding, They are starting with a blank canvas

Whether it’s an IP to original is kind of irrelevant as the space is entirely empty, so they can do whatever they want with it
 
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