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Fast & Furious: Supercharged (Closing August 2026)

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In all of the back-and-forth about the past decade, I do want to emphasize one additional thought. They've done an incredible job with additions for thrill-seekers. They've done an okay job with children. However, they've really robbed the average adult who isn't into high-intensity coasters. This has been the past decade for my wife, for reference:

- Fallon: Absolute skip for her (based on quality)
- Supercharged: Absolute skip for her (based on quality)
- Hagrid's: May one day force herself to ride, but currently too afraid
- The Bourne Stuntacular: Enjoys this
- Velocicoaster: Absolute skip for her (based on fear)
- Minion Blast: Will do it, but only if it's a walk on (based on quality)
- Dreamworks Land: Nothing for her
- Hollywood Drift: Likely a skip for her (based on fear)

She has an annual pass and frequently questions why. An average trip to USF for her is Men In Black, Gringotts, and E.T. I personally adore coasters, but there is quite a disparity in terms of offerings and new additions for thrill seekers & scaredy cats. Because of this, it makes it impossible for us to share many Universal experiences together.
 
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Columbo said:
On the cancelled rides and projects, this is probably Disney's biggest annoyance in recent years. Beyond Poppins we have the Play Pavilion, the Future World update which they butchered, the cancelled World Showcase addition (though if memory serves me correct that didn't get an official announcement)
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The biggest miss for a cancelled attraction, by far, is the Main Street theater.

The fact the most popular theme park in the entire world doesn’t have a world-class show and theater space is ridiculous.

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But, I would just say that they’ve had notable chances (in this very decade) to start working their way out of it, and they’ve (thus far) declined.
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Exactly. I can’t get behind the “hey, they’ve been trying. Give them a chance to fix it” when they have shown us zero attempt to fix it even though they’ve had numerous chances and triple down on redundancy.

Villain con is unforgivable in that space.
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Re-using the screen tunnel here would be them (in my view) declining to do that once again.
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Going to disagree here. Re-use it.

Tearing down supercharged and starting fresh is number 3 on my list of tearing down attractions. If we’re keeping FFL for its stage and HHN- otherwise, supercharged would drop to #4.

And it’s number 3 with a large gap between it and number 2- Springfield/animal actors.

And number 2 has a chasm between it and number one- villain con. That mistake and atrocity needs to die and they need a two story dark ride there. The ride is crappy enough as it is but fine in a vacuum. But it makes the whole park flat out worse.

No villain con but a dark ride?
No Springfield but a new dark ride and coaster there?
Then a Twisters attraction not only is fine in that space; but I think it compliments the park. If and only if they do other replacements will the 360 tunnel attraction be ok.

But if villain con still exists even after a supercharged tear down; the entrance is still fully broken. Nothing fixes that without fixing it.

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No offense, but I think that’s being too optimistic that Universal could resurrect any of them. It’s been years since they all closed, and there’s always a new and bigger IP.
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BTTF is in Universal UK concept art. Now could that just be fan service? Maybe. But considering they built another flippin’ waterworld in their brand new Beijing park; I could totally see it.

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You can argue they haven't moved fast enough or disagree with the choices they've made, but saying they've had opportunities to start addressing these problems and have simply "declined" to do so?
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Going to have to disagree with the basis of argument here. The problems he has are the problems many of us have; and clearly are the problems that the general public and annual pass holders have as well based on attendance numbers.

They could have built a SLoP-like dark ride in the villain con space. They didn’t. That was a cognizant choice. Be honest with yourself- how can you possibly argue that wasn’t a prime example of them declining to address the problems of the park?

They have done absolutely nothing to provide confidence they are attempting to address said problems of the park.

But F&F is going to be mindblowingly good. So there’s that, at least. But no one ever had any questions if universal was going to build a kickass coaster replacement. That they have provided us the confidence they can and will do.
 
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So we lost the original Twister to welcome in Jimmy Fallon and corporate synergy. To then only create a Fast & Furious ride that is so bad that it will be replaced by the Twisters reboot of that franchise.

Fascinating times. Theme parks are even rebooting themselves now.
 
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Exactly. I can’t get behind the “hey, they’ve been trying. Give them a chance to fix it” when they have shown us zero attempt to fix it even though they’ve had numerous chances and triple down on redundancy.
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I have a lot of qualms with the past decade myself at USF and don't love the concept of Twisters if it's just reusing the 360 tunnel. However, is Hollywood Drift not a direct attempt to fix the whole "HRRR is an atrocious, painful, ugly, unreliable, unthemed abomination" complaint that we've heard for years on end? That feels like fixing at least one problem to me.
 
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Tbad556 said:
I have a lot of qualms with the past decade myself at USF and don't love the concept of Twisters if it's just reusing the 360 tunnel. However, is Hollywood Drift not a direct attempt to fix the whole "HRRR is an atrocious, painful, ugly, unreliable, unthemed abomination" complaint that we've heard for years on end? That feels like fixing at least one problem to me.
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And the “fast and furious ride here isn’t fast” complaint too
 
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Alicia said:
And the “fast and furious ride here isn’t fast” complaint too
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I agree with this, but this is the company that got flamed for building a slow-moving F&F ride and then followed it up with a slow-moving Mario Kart ride which has sometimes faced much the same criticism.

I do worry at the prospect of a Twister attraction with no actual twister and no actual rain storm, etc.
 
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Alicia said:
And the “fast and furious ride here isn’t fast” complaint too
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Get ready for “The Twister was only on screen” complaints
 
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Tbad556 said:
I have a lot of qualms with the past decade myself at USF and don't love the concept of Twisters if it's just reusing the 360 tunnel. However, is Hollywood Drift not a direct attempt to fix the whole "HRRR is an atrocious, painful, ugly, unreliable, unthemed abomination" complaint that we've heard for years on end? That feels like fixing at least one problem to me.
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If that’s the principal reason they replaced HRRR, sure. But it was, at the very least, nearing end of life based on usage similar to other retracked coasters.

So it was more likely a “2 birds, 1 stone” situation.

Regardless of that, it doesn’t address the principal issue with the park.

A subpar coaster for a great coaster and a terrible simulator for a (hopefully) average simulator is great and all- but still addresses nothing at the core of the parks issues. Until they do something that addresses the core; I’m not really willing to give them their flowers. Once the bulldozer hits a simulator, we can start the conversation again.

I’ll refrain from commenting further about the state of USF because there is a thread for that and I don’t want this thread to drift too far away from the core of supercharged being replaced.

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I do worry at the prospect of a Twister attraction with no actual twister and no actual rain storm, etc.
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Get ready for “The Twister was only on screen” complaints
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You were 30 seconds too late for that prediction.

Everybody was wanting a water ride at USF. Time to crank up the water sprayers and fans and let’s start selling some towels in the exit gift shop!
 
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Going to be a bit both sidesy here, sorry:

In the list of reasons that Supercharged was bad, the ride layout is not very high up. The ride system itself was a poor fit for the IP, but just because they keep the general show building doesn't mean they can't put more effort into what surrounds the vehicle or make updates. I mean, we could see them re-contextualize the screen tunnel and change it from being the finale to something earlier on. Hard to know what they will do with this building

They could absolutely deliver something ranging from decent to maybe even good if we're lucky. If they have to focus on where they're really spending versus the smaller additions, I'm fine with this being a smaller one in the end

All that said, while I do not think making a minor improvement to this ride instead of an overhaul is indicative of the company further regressing: I also do not think it gets to be seen as the true revitalization of the park until we see them follow through with something larger afterwards. If nothing big follows this and they keep making similar bad decisions, a patch up job will just be remembered as one
 
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Andysol said:
They could have built a SLoP-like dark ride in the villain con space. They didn’t. That was a cognizant choice. Be honest with yourself- how can you possibly argue that wasn’t a prime example of them declining to address the problems of the park?

They have done absolutely nothing to provide confidence they are attempting to address said problems of the park.

But F&F is going to be mindblowingly good. So there’s that, at least. But no one ever had any questions if universal was going to build a kickass coaster replacement. That they have provided us the confidence they can and will do.
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They tried to make the park's entrance more cohesive, rather than the hodgepodge of Minion Mayhem, Shrek, Monsters' Cafe, and Rockit, while also addressing complaints that there weren't enough things for little kids to do (especially as Shrek was getting ripped for being an experience you can watch at home).

Could they have done it better? Yes. But it was an attempt to address said criticisms. I think rebranding the theme to "Minion Studios" would be a good start, while maybe updating Villain-Con to better reflect Minions & Monsters (that's a taller ask).

Same with Supercharged's complaints: "It was not Fast nor Furious," so Universal said, "Ok, here's a new, badass coaster."

Universal tends to address its criticisms pretty well (Which I think is fair game to come back with, "well, they shouldn't be making those mistakes to begin with!". :lol:

Going to have to disagree with the basis of argument here. The problems he has are the problems many of us have; and clearly are the problems that the general public and annual pass holders have as well based on attendance numbers.
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The problem with this argument is that it's down year over year, not a decline year after year. If there were a problem with USF's core structure, attendance would've been in the toilet for years now.

To clarify, I'm not saying there aren't issues. I mentioned the four big ones in my initial post. I'm just saying there's a difference between "USF has some problems that need to be addressed" and "USF needs a massive overhaul."

I think we're jumping from the former to the latter way too quickly.
 
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Tbad556 said:
In all of the back-and-forth about the past decade, I do want to emphasize one additional thought. They've done an incredible job with additions for thrill-seekers. They've done an okay job with children. However, they've really robbed the average adult who isn't into high-intensity coasters. This has been the past decade for my wife, for reference:

- Fallon: Absolute skip for her (based on quality)
- Supercharged: Absolute skip for her (based on quality)
- Hagrid's: May one day force herself to ride, but currently too afraid
- The Bourne Stuntacular: Enjoys this
- Velocicoaster: Absolute skip for her (based on fear)
- Minion Blast: Will do it, but only if it's a walk on (based on quality)
- Dreamworks Land: Nothing for her
- Hollywood Drift: Likely a skip for her (based on fear)

She has an annual pass and frequently questions why. An average trip to USF for her is Men In Black, Gringotts, and E.T. I personally adore coasters, but there is quite a disparity in terms of offerings and new additions for thrill seekers & scaredy cats. Because of this, it makes it impossible for us to share many Universal experiences together.
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I get that, but also there's tourists who think anything that isn't a coaster is something they don't want to ride. They exist! I don't think in order for Universal to compete they must copy Disney! Also if you're including Hagrid then why not include Epic rides?

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Going to be a bit both sidesy here, sorry:

In the list of reasons that Supercharged was bad, the ride layout is not very high up. The ride system itself was a poor fit for the IP, but just because they keep the general show building doesn't mean they can't put more effort into what surrounds the vehicle or make updates. I mean, we could see them re-contextualize the screen tunnel and change it from being the finale to something earlier on. Hard to know what they will do with this building

They could absolutely deliver something ranging from decent to maybe even good if we're lucky. If they have to focus on where they're really spending versus the smaller additions, I'm fine with this being a smaller one in the end

All that said, while I do not think making a minor improvement to this ride instead of an overhaul is indicative of the company further regressing: I also do not think it gets to be seen as the true revitalization of the park until we see them follow through with something larger afterwards. If nothing big follows this and they keep making similar bad decisions, a patch up job will just be remembered as one
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I think there's a serious lack of imagination on what they can do here. There are two preshow rooms, a large load area, a transition tunnel space, a full set show scene, first act pre-tunnel room, and then the 360 tunnel. I could see several solutions to this from Twisters to Jaws and more.
 
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Parkscope Joe said:
I get that, but also there's tourists who think anything that isn't a coaster is something they don't want to ride. They exist! I don't think in order for Universal to compete they must copy Disney! Also if you're including Hagrid then why not include Epic rides?
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More power to Universal if that's the party they choose to indulge. I'm fortunate enough to benefit from that. I'm not stating Universal has to copy Disney anywhere. I'd just love more of the dark rides that they already excel at that are a bit more accessible to the chickens that like theme parks as well. Secret Life of Pets could've fit that mold perfectly, for example.
 
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belloq87 said:
I know we’re of very different minds about USF, so I won’t push that disagreement further again!

But, I would just say that they’ve had notable chances (in this very decade) to start working their way out of it, and they’ve (thus far) declined. Re-using the screen tunnel here would be them (in my view) declining to do that once again.

Eventually, we have to be done with "Oh, they'll do something good next time." Next time is now.
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Money isn't infinite. If you're spending a ton on new parks and experiences, something is going to take the brunt, unfortunately. The rapid pace with which we saw UO operate in the 2010s was a result of money being next to free and basically infinite. Money (and materials) became more expensive after 2020 and hasn't seen much relief (especially the former). If COVID never happens? We probably already have the expansions at Epic, as well as Zelda/Pokemon/whatever else.

The 2010s should be treated as an anomaly, not the standard.

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The biggest miss for a cancelled attraction, by far, is the Main Street theater.

The fact the most popular theme park in the entire world doesn’t have a world-class show and theater space is ridiculous.
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Disney, for some reason, has been notoriously cheap when it comes to Entertainment. It makes no sense in the least bit, but they didn't put the theater there because they'd either have to actually do something with it or let it sit empty in a park that is always needing every available square foot.
 
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Parkscope Joe said:
I get that, but also there's tourists who think anything that isn't a coaster is something they don't want to ride. They exist! I don't think in order for Universal to compete they must copy Disney! Also if you're including Hagrid then why not include Epic rides?
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I don't think anyone is saying copy Disney. But Universal's portfolio has certainly lacked variety as of late (ignoring Epic of course, which is a massive expansion).
 
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