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KILLceañera: Music By Slash (HHN 2026)

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  • Yesterday at 8:40 PM
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Spookies n' Stuff said:
Honestly unless Murdy is willing to truly hand over the design process to people actually in that large Asian population I'm not sure it's a great idea. Maybe things have changed in 7 years, but remembering Spirits and Demons of the East makes me feel like theres a pretty significant lack of understanding there, even outside of putting a white dude in Fu Manchu makeup the title of the zone itself is kinda icky looking back.

As interesting as that zone was aesthetically, I don't think it should be controversial to say it was pretty orientalist and shallow at its bones and any new tackling of any kind of cultural folklore should probably have someone actually knowledgable in charge of designing it.
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Not to be a hater but I feel like this maze feels as shallow as that scarezone based off the description. Granted we have no idea who's behind the development of ideas like this. It could very well be someone of Latino decent.
 
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  • Yesterday at 8:46 PM
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Ridesandstuff said:
Not to be a hater but I feel like this maze feels as shallow as that scarezone based off the description. Granted we have no idea who's behind the development of ideas like this. It could very well be someone of Latino decent.
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I don't disagree, it's honestly what got me thinking about it in the first place lol. I think the only reason we haven't dipped into the Latin American mazes being more insensitive is purely because they've just been surface level collections of existing monsters without much of a story. It feels telling that the first time they try to do something wholly original it feels pretty tacky, even if I have higher hopes.
Murdy has been very open about the fact that he's had Hispanic and Latino team members on his crew consulting for all the previous mazes and this one, but this was also explicitly his idea for the story dating back to 2018 or so, so I imagine it's somewhere in between where he's doing the bulk of the writing and passing off the treatment to other people to make sure things are faithful enough to not actively be offensive.
 
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  • Yesterday at 8:58 PM
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Spookies n' Stuff said:
I don't disagree, it's honestly what got me thinking about it in the first place lol. I think the only reason we haven't dipped into the Latin American mazes being more insensitive is purely because they've just been surface level collections of existing monsters without much of a story. It feels telling that the first time they try to do something wholly original it feels pretty tacky, even if I have higher hopes.
Murdy has been very open about the fact that he's had Hispanic and Latino team members on his crew consulting for all the previous mazes and this one, but this was also explicitly his idea for the story dating back to 2018 or so, so I imagine it's somewhere in between where he's doing the bulk of the writing and passing off the treatment to other people to make sure things are faithful enough to not actively be offensive.
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Yea I don't think the previous mazes are tacky though to be fair. Adapting existing folklore is pretty inspired. This one is lacking a bit of subtly for me and I think it comes from running out of a real launch pad from anything culturally relevant.

I'm kinda surprised none of the scarezones were adapted into mazes. I feel like El Terror de Las Momias or Noche de Brujas could be a bit more nuanced as full mazes. I might just be too artsy fartsy though. I'm open to being proved wrong!
 
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