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Wizarding World of Harry Potter - Ministry of Magic - General Discussion Thread

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There is no fence in the Fly-Through, but there is one in the concept art.

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There’s signs and beasts missing from fly thru too
 
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I think this land might have a similar effect to Diagon, where it appears a lot nicer at night than in the day with all the lights on.
 
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I know it's been brought up the scale of the park is going to be huge but hearing it in terms that the tallest building in Diagon is the shortest in Paris really helps get that across. Walking into the atrium is going to hit different.

Man those designers must've had a great time being allowed to build something full size. Not too many times you'd get that chance in a theme park I think.

Evan said:
I can’t imagine they’d be able to use AI to recreate the performance / voice of any of the union actors, without their or the unions sole permission.

If they asked any of the actors to film new content for this, or lend their voices, it would likely be a union set still, or the union itself would have to give a special exemption for the talent to work on a non-union project, which may be unlikely.

Of course maybe theme parks get an exemption? But I’d assume it would be a union set if they were to use the big names.
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They may already have some permission to do this because of the previous rides? Sort of how Uni can use comic Marvel content but none of the new stuff because they don't have permission for that.

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I'm sure they use from what's in the movies, add some cgi elements in there and call it a day. I don't expect to see or hear them all the time but sparsely while obscured in smoke or something.
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I don't know how final this footage is on the ride but I think this is the kind of thing you're talking about.

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To me it looks like there's more details in the faces of the house-elf and the guy standing behind Hermione than the trio.

GAcoaster said:
I'm actually kind of shocked at the online reactions (here and other places) to this announcement. I kind of felt like "Potter is over" for so many people between the generation who grew up with Harry being older now and just aging out, and the whole JKR backlash of the past few years, but there seems to be a lot of genuine excitement over this.

I'll admit this was my least anticipated announce since I felt like "yeah, more Potter. I'm sure it will be good, but I just don't care that much anymore", but I was impressed by the "life" in those Paris streets which is not as obvious when you look at the grey/white buildings. They managed to make it feel as alive and interesting as Hogsmeade and Diagon.
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The original story of HP will be the cultural story that sticks around long after FB fades out (obviously already there). It's clear there are nods and integrations of the newer movies so they're not ignoring it but the meat of this still falls back to the original series. Not saying that's a bad thing at all but I think when you talk about HP, that's what most people refer to anyway. In a manner of speaking it's remembered fondly because it's the least "tainted".

This expansion hits like a fine wine on a refined palate. We know the general feel and experience of a HP land by Universal, now it's all about the details of the rides and shows themselves.

Pacific said:
I mean, Alica has a large audience but the theme park community is a big community. Plenty of people aren't going to know about (or may even be interested) in rumors.
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Depends on where your focus is too. If you're Disney-centric you're far less likely to know what's going on in Universal's orbit or other parks. As much as I try to keep up with things I still end up with a small backlog of podcasts episodes to catch up on every few months. Not everyone is current on what's out there, especially if a big story breaks and it overshadows older things.

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I think this land might have a similar effect to Diagon, where it appears a lot nicer at night than in the day with all the lights on.
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I love the view of the London facade at night. I'd like a similar feel with more magical elements like projection mapping at night, maybe special interactive ones that only activate at night? That would be neat.
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
I think this land might have a similar effect to Diagon, where it appears a lot nicer at night than in the day with all the lights on.
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Honestly with the height of the buildings it feels like they could have put a roof over the streets and just made it perpetual twilight inside, making sure that the outside world stays out and the streets remain dry and cool. An indoor land makes so much sense in Orlando.
 
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GAcoaster said:
Honestly with the height of the buildings it feels like they could have put a roof over the streets and just made it perpetual twilight inside, making sure that the outside world stays out and the streets remain dry and cool. An indoor land makes so much sense in Orlando.
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yes. That roofed area in Diagon comes in real handy during the eventual afternoon rain storms.
 
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GAcoaster said:
Honestly with the height of the buildings it feels like they could have put a roof over the streets and just made it perpetual twilight inside, making sure that the outside world stays out and the streets remain dry and cool. An indoor land makes so much sense in Orlando.
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Didn't think about it, but your right. Would have been cool to have an all indoor land (which Orlando desperately needs)
 
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I know @Alicia has all the “scoop” but my opinion on these vehicles and them being compared to TOT, I have my indifferences. TOT relies on gravity, not to say these vehicles wont drop us, but I feel they will more “pull” us down rather than gravity. So always need to remember the wear and tear on the “scissor” mechanisms and how long that “pull” can consistently last…idk what Im talking about lol just basing my opinion on what the insiders have said here and applying physics.
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Actually iirc from the imagineering story, the drops are controlled on ToT and go faster than gravity at times. I feel Ministry will be able to achieve similar sensations, just for shorter periods of time and distance.
 
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Steptwice said:
I know @Alicia has all the “scoop” but my opinion on these vehicles and them being compared to TOT, I have my indifferences. TOT relies on gravity, not to say these vehicles wont drop us, but I feel they will more “pull” us down rather than gravity. So always need to remember the wear and tear on the “scissor” mechanisms and how long that “pull” can consistently last…idk what Im talking about lol just basing my opinion on what the insiders have said here and applying physics.
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Tower comparisons are for loading and seating.
 
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I was hoping Universal would avoid showing the entire vehicle to avoid the ToT comparisons that could lead to false expectations of it being a drop ride.
 
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I think I'm still struggling to imagine in my mind how tall the buildings will be in this land. I'm so conditioned to have buildings in theme parks be how they are in Diagon/NY/Hogsmeade/etc.
 
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I think I'm still struggling to imagine in my mind how tall the buildings will be in this land. I'm so conditioned to have buildings in theme parks be how they are in Diagon/NY/Hogsmeade/etc.
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Closest I can think of is NY at USF and add half of the existing facade to the top?
 
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Closest I can think of is NY at USF and add half of the existing facade to the top?
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It's wild to imagine!

And I would have totally been onboard with this being an indoor land.
 
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Guess it's time to brush up on my French. Good thing I have Duo.

As for ToT: From my understanding, you never really "drop" on the ride. When you fall and rise, you are actually being pulled up and down, hence why you are able to fall faster than the speed of gravity.
 
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The idea that the shortest building in HPBM is taller than the tallest in Diagon (which I suppose is the Gringott's facade) is impressive. Gringott's appears to be huge when you see it looming at the end of the street.

Just the fact that this is built in 1:1 scale instead of using any forced perspective will make it something unique.
 
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Even though it isn't an "indoor" area, the fact that the buildings are so tall and close together means you will mostly be in shade for a majority of the day time.
 
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Loki said:
Even though it isn't an "indoor" area, the fact that the buildings are so tall and close together means you will mostly be in shade for a majority of the day time.
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On the other hand the streets are wider in Paris than in London. Still there should indeed be enough shade there.
 
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Even though it isn't an "indoor" area, the fact that the buildings are so tall and close together means you will mostly be in shade for a majority of the day time.
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I wonder if they'll actually attempt an atmospheric effect in there.
 
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looks like some low hanging fog is present. . .
 
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so if I understand correctly, they're building Paris but won't have any full service restaurant?
 
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so if I understand correctly, they're building Paris but won't have any full service restaurant?
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Correct. None of the lands have a full service restaurant. Only Atlantic and Blue Dragon inside Celestial Park are full service locations at opening.

Each land will have at least 1 upscale quick service location though, where you may order at the counter, and then you're food is brought to your table. Both dining locations in the Wizarding World are set up this way.
 
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