Race Through NY Starring Jimmy Fallon

[fryoj]

I kinda figured it would be loaded by rows like Star Tours. It would reduce load/unload times vs everyone going up or down.

If they are wanting to sell the "you really are in the theater" thing, lap bars would about be the only way to go. They could be integrated into the seat in front of you and only come down when things start to go wrong.

 

[shiekra38]

I kinda figured it would be loaded by rows like Star Tours. It would reduce load/unload times vs everyone going up or down.

If they are wanting to sell the "you really are in the theater" thing, lap bars would about be the only way to go. They could be integrated into the seat in front of you and only come down when things start to go wrong.

I feel Universal's safety guidelines wouldn't allow such a thing...They are sticklers about stuff like that

 

[SkiBum]

I feel Universal's safety guidelines wouldn't allow such a thing...They are sticklers about stuff like that

Also guessing that state safety inspectors wouldn't be on board with that, either. I would guess that it will be a) Lapbars down upon being seated or b) do a "show" thing that would then require attendants to ensure lapbars are down before the ride progresses. However, I would say (a) will be used because that prevents accidents in case the ride were to start prematurely. Erring on the side of caution even though the likelihood of that happening is remote.

 

[epcyclopedia]

State safety inspectors....?

 

[WAJAS]

State safety inspectors....?

You didn't know about them? Or is there a more specific question you meant?

 

[epcyclopedia]

You didn't know about them? Or is there a more specific question you meant?

I mean like they don't really exist...

OSHA cares about the employees when something get reported to them and the fire marshal cares about emergency exits... but no one gives two craps about if a ride is inherently safe.

Fairs get inspected. Theme parks do not.

 

[epcyclopedia]

Linky: Regulation | Saferparks

"Parks exempt from government oversight: Disney, Universal, Busch Gardens."

 

[WAJAS]

Linky: Regulation | Saferparks

"Parks exempt from government oversight: Disney, Universal, Busch Gardens."

Cool. I thought their's were just less frequent. I know Fun Spot gets inspections, but I guess they're not exempt.

 

[Nick]

Cool. I thought their's were just less frequent. I know Fun Spot gets inspections, but I guess they're not exempt.

Most of Funspot's rides can be disassembled within mere hours so there's a bit more of a safety concern there.

 

[Nick]

 

[Miketheboss]

I mean like they don't really exist...

OSHA cares about the employees when something get reported to them and the fire marshal cares about emergency exits... but no one gives two craps about if a ride is inherently safe.

Fairs get inspected. Theme parks do not.

Universal obviously has safety inspectors. Probably paid and ran by them. Its in the companies own interest to have them. Anything wrong happens and they'd be sued big time, gain bad press and draw a negative public perception.

 

[SkiBum]

Linky: Regulation | Saferparks

"Parks exempt from government oversight: Disney, Universal, Busch Gardens."

This is also from Saferparks. Federal government does not have jurisdiction but the states do (unless I am reading this wrong).

States are Best Equipped to Regulate the Amusement Park Industry. There is no evidence federal oversight would improve on the already excellent safety record of the amusement park industry.

• Currently 44 of 50 states regulate amusement parks. The six without state oversight are Alabama, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, Wyoming, and Utah. These states contain few, if any amusement parks (Wyoming has no parks).
• Then-Congressman Ed Markey convened a panel of leading doctors, biodynamic consultants, medical experts, and ride safety specialists to study the amusement park industry's safety record.The panel concluded it is unlikely that a federal agency could match the effectiveness of the current system.
• Relevant data consistently shows only a small percentage of incidents that do occur are caused by factors subject to governmental ride operations oversight, namely either staff or mechanical error.

Amusement Ride Safety Regulations and Standards

 

[s8film40]

This is also from Saferparks. Federal government does not have jurisdiction but the states do (unless I am reading this wrong).

States are Best Equipped to Regulate the Amusement Park Industry. There is no evidence federal oversight would improve on the already excellent safety record of the amusement park industry.

• Currently 44 of 50 states regulate amusement parks. The six without state oversight are Alabama, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, Wyoming, and Utah. These states contain few, if any amusement parks (Wyoming has no parks).
• Then-Congressman Ed Markey convened a panel of leading doctors, biodynamic consultants, medical experts, and ride safety specialists to study the amusement park industry's safety record.The panel concluded it is unlikely that a federal agency could match the effectiveness of the current system.
• Relevant data consistently shows only a small percentage of incidents that do occur are caused by factors subject to governmental ride operations oversight, namely either staff or mechanical error.

Amusement Ride Safety Regulations and Standards

Florida regulates the theme parks by requiring them to inspect the rides themselves and submit reports listing injuries.

 

[Mad Dog]

I would think their own lawyers would suggest internal inspections of sorts & a paper trail to limit liability.

 

[SkiBum]

Florida regulates the theme parks by requiring them to inspect the rides themselves and submit reports listing injuries.

Thanks s8film40 and epcyclopedia. It is surprising to me that the state would not get involved but maybe historical data supports the parks self-governance. Still, parks have to avoid accidents to avoid reputation loss and financial loss so they have a major self-interest in injury avoidance.

 

[s8film40]

Thanks s8film40 and epcyclopedia. It is surprising to me that the state would not get involved but maybe historical data supports the parks self-governance. Still, parks have to avoid accidents to avoid reputation loss and financial loss so they have a major self-interest in injury avoidance.

I think it makes sense, inspecting every attraction at all the major theme parks would be a huge task. I think they consider those parks do a decent job of inspecting themselves and it allows the state to focus on the attractions that are more likely to be an issue. The reports allow them to keep up with things and I would imagine if they start to ever see anything out of the ordinary they would then step in.

 

[Mad Dog]

In Pa. they have park employees accredited to do the state safety inspections, since they're the most skilled to perform those inspections. But, I believe they use state employees for carnivals & traveling attractions. As an example, at Kennywood, they have the accredited park employees walk the track of every coaster in the morning before they open, to ensure there's no track issues.

 

[Viator]

From The Coaster Crew..

 

[epcyclopedia]

Self policing has good and bad.

Good is that they know the operation and what the dangers really are.

Bad in that people with no qualifications often get out in positions to make the decisions. Shortly after the BTMRR incident at Disneyland, I e-stopped a ride in Epcot because it lost show items that per the SOP it needed to be shut down and fixed.

The manager on duty was furious because I didn't call to ask for permission (other rides were down) and it was supposedly his decision. I had to try to calmly explain we shut down for safety reasons when a projector goes out because while it is a show quality issue we also don't know if the projector has blown up and someone needs to go and check. We're taking large scale projections, not small elements of larger scenes.

He threatened to write me up, but since the SOP agreed with me I was safe. A few weeks later the SOP books were removed from the operations consoles. The best truthful explanation I could suss out was that upon complaining about the SOP shutting the ride down "for no reason" the issue was brought to the powers that be and they quickly realized the SOP was a liability of management chose to override what tnsaid and subsequently injured or killed someone.

Not following your own policies as printed in an obvious book would be pretty damning. So, in their minds the SOPs had to go. (Not to emphasize following them... god forbid.)

A few months passed and I'm opening an attraction and hear breaking glass, twisting and scraping metal, and other unhappy sounds during a test cycle. I don't call for authorization, and immediately e-stop the ride. Policy at the time was that any foreign sound was grounds for an e-stop because of the BTMRR incident.

Same manager finds out and barges in ready to chew me out, as I've now delayed the ride opening and again other attractions are having "real technical issues."

The techs inform him the hydraulic system that controls the show doors had a catastrophic failure, the basement was flooding with hydraulic fluid as we spoke, and the show door had risen at an angle that caused damage to booth the door and structural wall of the building. If I hadn't stopped it, the entire wall might have collapsed.

He just glared at me.

And ever since I don't let other people make safety decisions for me, not even the ones entrusted with the power to do so by some bogus legal mumbo-jumbo.

 

[Mike S]

I think Simpsons has that covered

"Legally Required Safety Video"

Self policing has good and bad.

Good is that they know the operation and what the dangers really are.

Bad in that people with no qualifications often get out in positions to make the decisions. Shortly after the BTMRR incident at Disneyland, I e-stopped a ride in Epcot because it lost show items that per the SOP it needed to be shut down and fixed.

The manager on duty was furious because I didn't call to ask for permission (other rides were down) and it was supposedly his decision. I had to try to calmly explain we shut down for safety reasons when a projector goes out because while it is a show quality issue we also don't know if the projector has blown up and someone needs to go and check. We're taking large scale projections, not small elements of larger scenes.

He threatened to write me up, but since the SOP agreed with me I was safe. A few weeks later the SOP books were removed from the operations consoles. The best truthful explanation I could suss out was that upon complaining about the SOP shutting the ride down "for no reason" the issue was brought to the powers that be and they quickly realized the SOP was a liability of management chose to override what tnsaid and subsequently injured or killed someone.

Not following your own policies as printed in an obvious book would be pretty damning. So, in their minds the SOPs had to go. (Not to emphasize following them... god forbid.)

A few months passed and I'm opening an attraction and hear breaking glass, twisting and scraping metal, and other unhappy sounds during a test cycle. I don't call for authorization, and immediately e-stop the ride. Policy at the time was that any foreign sound was grounds for an e-stop because of the BTMRR incident.

Same manager finds out and barges in ready to chew me out, as I've now delayed the ride opening and again other attractions are having "real technical issues."

The techs inform him the hydraulic system that controls the show doors had a catastrophic failure, the basement was flooding with hydraulic fluid as we spoke, and the show door had risen at an angle that caused damage to booth the door and structural wall of the building. If I hadn't stopped it, the entire wall might have collapsed.

He just glared at me.

And ever since I don't let other people make safety decisions for me, not even the ones entrusted with the power to do so by some bogus legal mumbo-jumbo.

That would've been the moment I gave him a smug smirk of being right.