Halloween Horror Nights 30 (UOR) - Speculation & Rumors (2021)

[Legacy]

Who said this?

The Old HHN 30 Speculation Thread (2020)

Sorry y’all didn’t get much sleep last night so I’m trynna understand this all, so nothing DID get removed yet right? We’re just kinda speaking in hypotheticals? EDIT- Ah ok so it’s just Billie has a good chance of pulling out now. That’s real unfortunate, I was looking forward to that house...

forums.insideuniversal.net

It was mentioned in last year’s thread.

 

[shiekra38]

The Old HHN 30 Speculation Thread (2020)

Sorry y’all didn’t get much sleep last night so I’m trynna understand this all, so nothing DID get removed yet right? We’re just kinda speaking in hypotheticals? EDIT- Ah ok so it’s just Billie has a good chance of pulling out now. That’s real unfortunate, I was looking forward to that house...

forums.insideuniversal.net

The Old HHN 30 Speculation Thread (2020)

Sorry y’all didn’t get much sleep last night so I’m trynna understand this all, so nothing DID get removed yet right? We’re just kinda speaking in hypotheticals? EDIT- Ah ok so it’s just Billie has a good chance of pulling out now. That’s real unfortunate, I was looking forward to that house...

forums.insideuniversal.net

It was mentioned in last year’s thread.

Lol I left that group a long time ago...nothing good happens there

 

[Grabnar]

It's on my watch list and it sounds like it has a lot of potential... also sounds like it's locked up with FXX/Disney rights stuff.

It's very much a comedy with horror elements, but it's definitely my one of favorite movies from the last decade. The show is pretty good, bordering on great, as well, but the movie is lightning in a bottle.

 

[Tristan]

It's very much a comedy with horror elements, but it's definitely my one of favorite movies from the last decade. The show is pretty good, bordering on great, as well, but the movie is lightning in a bottle.

How can you look at 'Ordinary Bar-Owner Jackie Daytona' and not think this show is great

 

[shiekra38]

After re-watching TCM last night for the umpteenth time...I still feel we haven't gotten a true "this is it" version of TCM yet.

For instance, with Halloween, the Horror Nights house WAS the movie through and through

I just haven't felt we've gotten completely there yet with TCM

I have no idea what to expect for this version

 

[hhn28andbeyond]

Lol I left that group a long time ago...nothing good happens there

Unpopular opinion but I feel like last years thread was better than this years for reasons out of any of our control. Last year we had stuff to talk about, yeah we occasionally went off the rails but it usually resulted in a good moment (Iron Maiden) or was immediately straightened up by the “gp” of the thread. There’s not really much at all to speculate this year, and people need to realize that. Instead of being a spec thread it’s turning into a “oh my god I saw something vaguely related to hhn let’s post about it” thread. I’ve said this many times before and I’ll say it many times again but let’s all try to only talk if there’s something important to be talked about.

 

[Neo]

I’ve said this many times before and I’ll say it many times again but let’s all try to only talk if there’s something important to be talked about.

But as you said, there really is nothing to talk about, kinda defeats the whole "community" type feel of the place if nobody is allowed to talk unless they know something concrete about the event. There's the "HHN Announcements" thread if you only want cold hard facts, but speculation is just that - people speculating.

We generally accept it as fact that one house is being replaced. There are rumblings (I get confused by what the true definition of a "rumor" is here so don't want to misspeak) of the possibility of 11 or even 12 houses this year. So there is the potential for 3 houses that we do not know yet, and Legacy hinted that the Billie replacement might be an IP, so wouldn't that make speculating about IPs acceptable speculation? Sounds like there will only be one show this year and we were lead to believe that last year would have some sort of stage show plus the lagoon show, so there is some discussion worthy topics on will it just be the lagoon show, or will there be a Beetlejuice show, or possibly both if the current situation in the world takes a better turn in the near future.

I agree that digging up sexism for the Billie house is tired and irrelevant as the house isn't going to happen and some of the other bickering and incessant "when is the next announcement coming?" is annoying and doesn't contribute anything to the discussion, saying you want "It" to come might belong in the wishful thinking thread, and I myself frequently venture into the Covid discussion that really shouldn't be here (I can never seem to find the general Covid thread plus HHN is such a different beast than regular day-to-day operations and so far in the future)...but when we do not KNOW information, we SPECULATE, and isn't the thread for that discussion?

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Unpopular opinion but I feel like last years thread was better than this years for reasons out of any of our control. Last year we had stuff to talk about, yeah we occasionally went off the rails but it usually resulted in a good moment (Iron Maiden) or was immediately straightened up by the “gp” of the thread. There’s not really much at all to speculate this year, and people need to realize that. Instead of being a spec thread it’s turning into a “oh my god I saw something vaguely related to hhn let’s post about it” thread. I’ve said this many times before and I’ll say it many times again but let’s all try to only talk if there’s something important to be talked about.

I believe they were talking about my reference to the HHN FB group.

Also we’re not safe here either; someone posted a misogynistic meme of Ellish in the USH HHN thread the mods removed.

 

[Allison]

I agree that digging up sexism for the Billie house is tired and irrelevant as the house isn't going to happen

Damn, I am seen and I have been called out all at the same time!

Jokes aside, this fandom (just like all others) has some really deeply toxic traits to it. Until it’s called out for what it is, instead of swept under the rug, it’s just gonna be the elephant in the room that not all of us feel they have the luxury to ignore.

 

[TheCodeMan95]

After re-watching TCM last night for the umpteenth time...I still feel we haven't gotten a true "this is it" version of TCM yet.

For instance, with Halloween, the Horror Nights house WAS the movie through and through

I just haven't felt we've gotten completely there yet with TCM

I have no idea what to expect for this version

The rumors are for the 2013 version, right? If so, it may not be the "this is it" version unless they just disregard everything about that movie lol

 

[CoryLevy91]

...but when we do not KNOW information, we SPECULATE, and isn't the thread for that discussion?

The issue is that speculating is supposed to be housed in some realm of fact.

Simply saying 'I'm going to speculate that we're getting X,Y,Z because it's such a good property and it'd make a great addition' isn't speculation, it's wishing for what you want and just throwing something randomly out there. If you want to speculate that an IP is going to replace Billie since that is supposedly a rumor that exists, you could speculate it but it should revolve around titles that are available for Universal to use and make some form of sense.

There isn't much of anything to speculate about since we know the majority of the event that was planned and mostly leaked/revealed in 2020 is going to be making a full return in 2021 and finer detail aspects likely aren't even know by those in charge of the event (ticket details, tour options, show offerings, etc.) due to how difficult the world is in its current state of a pandemic. Therefore it's sorta pointless to debate them since we'll know the details when we know them.

I don't really have a problem with the thread at all because it's very apparent that every year the Speculation/Rumors thread just turns into a general conversation about the event. I think perhaps splitting the topics even further into a 'HHN ## News & Information', 'HHN ## Speculation and Rumors' and 'HHN ## General Horrors' thread might be worth looking into. That way you have less derision for being off topic and you can have a place where everyone can just go bonkers wild. I know the wishlist thread exists but people would be more likely to be involved in an updated, yearly thread of general HHN shenanigans.

 

[hhn28andbeyond]

But as you said, there really is nothing to talk about,

Then don’t talk.
And to your other points, speculation ≠ guess work. Some of You guys seem to be striving for anything to talk about when everything and more was covered in last years 500+ pages of organized chaos.

 

[RevFreako]

How can you look at 'Ordinary Bar-Owner Jackie Daytona' and not think this show is great
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Matt Berry is a treasure.

Damn, I am seen and I have been called out all at the same time!

Jokes aside, this fandom (just like all others) has some really deeply toxic traits to it. Until it’s called out for what it is, instead of swept under the rug, it’s just gonna be the elephant in the room that not all of us feel they have the luxury to ignore.

One hundred percent agreed.

 

[jorgerr96]

III Points festival in Miami just moved to the 3rd week of October. Looking good for events this fall.

 

[HHN Maddux]

After re-watching TCM last night for the umpteenth time...I still feel we haven't gotten a true "this is it" version of TCM yet.

For instance, with Halloween, the Horror Nights house WAS the movie through and through

I just haven't felt we've gotten completely there yet with TCM

I have no idea what to expect for this version

Really? Honestly the 2016 house is to this day one of the few houses that genuinely made me feel like I was in danger.

The rumors are for the 2013 version, right? If so, it may not be the "this is it" version unless they just disregard everything about that movie lol

I believe it's been said it'll be based on the original again, just now in a soundstage instead of a tent.

 

[BoSoxFan1022]

There isn’t really a rumor about what the TCM house will be based on. The font that is on the house shirt doesn’t match up with any of the movie fonts. This means it’ll probably be a best of or an generic house on the TCM franchise

 

[OhHaiInternet95]

And you also have a**holes who saw the first speculation map last year who will say the event is getting "woke" or "becoming SJW" for having female-centered houses.

What I would give for an event with houses dedicated to the Bride of Frankenstein, Terra Queen, and Bloody Mary...

Also it was yours truly who (re-)started the Billie discussion. I’ve certainly been a curmudgeon about the issue myself but I do find it interesting. For me the “family” thing only becomes a problem when there’s MULTIPLE houses like that. But it just intrigued me to see a Universal-ly positive reaction to Beetle when I know that even if literally everything else was super dark/scary/gory/R-rated, one house for Billie would’ve ruined the whole event for seemingly many of these folks.

 

[Living Dead Dude]

There isn’t really a rumor about what the TCM house will be based on. The font that is on the house shirt doesn’t match up with any of the movie fonts. This means it’ll probably be a best of or an generic house on the TCM franchise

This is actually a very fair point. Everything I have heard seem to indicate it will be based on the original film however the font on the shirt is exactly what they used for Blood Brothers in hollywood

 

[Allison]

one house for Billie would’ve ruined the whole event for seemingly many of these folks.

Sadly, those folks end up being the ones that could ruin the event in general for years to come.

They very loudly do not want/allow it to change, grow, and adapt with the times and could in turn potentially hold it back for the future.

It’s a shame and I hope they’ll take some time to see things differently and be more open to new inclusions in the future.

 

[Legacy]

There isn’t really a rumor about what the TCM house will be based on. The font that is on the house shirt doesn’t match up with any of the movie fonts. This means it’ll probably be a best of or an generic house on the TCM franchise

The font is the bold, block font of the original with type-set/design of the remake (small “The;” focus on “Chainsaw”).