That’s exactly why those extra hours upcharge parties are so popular.Honestly if the average guest could ride everything in MK in a day, I think they'd pay $140 admission and still be happy.
That’s exactly why those extra hours upcharge parties are so popular.Honestly if the average guest could ride everything in MK in a day, I think they'd pay $140 admission and still be happy.
I mainly did it as more of a research thing. Mainly so I could discuss the attraction from a informed viewpoint.I have thought about it and it is getting hotter every day. Wonder if I can luck out some morning....
I don't know if that's the main driver. For me personally those events are about the different M&Gs, shows, and other perks rather than the rides that can typically be done during normal hours. I will admit we did a few of the "longer wait" rides during the parties, but it was more about the exclusive things that were offered during those parties.That’s exactly why those extra hours upcharge parties are so popular.
I’m not talking about MNSSHP and MVMCP. I’m speaking to the parties that are essentially paid EMH.I don't know if that's the main driver. For me personally those events are about the different M&Gs, shows, and other perks rather than the rides that can typically be done during normal hours. I will admit we did a few of the "longer wait" rides during the parties, but it was more about the exclusive things that were offered during those parties.
Gotcha. Yes that is definitely true and is now becoming one of the very few perks of staying on site. Disney is really making me want to stay off-site the way they are monetizing every freaking thing anymore.I’m not talking about MNSSHP and MVMCP. I’m speaking to the parties that are essentially paid EMH.
Magic has been pretty angry at Disney for years. At least on the News & Rumors section.Excellent new thread running on WDW Magic right now. The thread is titled "The Day the Magic Died" and Magic forum poster Pooh does a great parody of the "The Day the Music Died" song. It's really good.....There's two different threads on the parking running on Magic right now, and both threads are blasting Disney big time. Most every poster is strongly negative on this issue. There's only a very few that are lukewarm or supportive of it. And, keep in mind, Magic is a pretty strong pro Disney site for the most part, with a few exceptions, mostly those that post here also.
It's mostly just me.Magic has been pretty angry at Disney for years. At least on the News & Rumors section.
I often find many there to be more negative on Disney than we are.
Yes, I've noticed that.It's mostly just me.
I need a better hobby.
Ya got that right!January was really bad. The TP crowd calendar was off by a lot, like level 3 days ending up level 8 and 9's. Testa has brought this up before and TP had to keep adjusting line times and crowd levels. But it seems January was the apex that busted the system big time. And, as Len keeps saying, attendance increases don't justify the much larger observed stand by times....This time he actually sent in his observers to count how many vehicles they were running,load times, etc. It's not so much that there's no slow times anymore, the real fact is that even on slow attendance days Disney cuts staffing and vehicle load times so it seems like the parks are crowded, even though they really aren't.
Yep.It is absolute insanity that disney is not obsessed with increasing overall capacity of the resorts given demand but my fear is that they figured out they the could extend vacations artificially by making it take longer to do everything and transferring the blame on the guests' lack of planning that they missed out on anything. I think we have gotten to the point where the data they have is ruining all the loopholes/slow times of those in the know.
Ohhh...unless some magical miracle happens, this fall will not be like your trip in 2015.I haven't made my way through that entire thread yet, but this whole issue fascinates and frightens me. It seems there's been a fairly radical change in approach to the way Disney views the "slow times."
When I visited the Magic Kingdom on a Friday in late October of 2015, I was in the park from 9:10am t0 5:30pm, and I was able to do 19 attractions. Something tells me that will be virtually impossible during my next trip later this fall.
Prime example right here!!!:wave:This is going to bite them in the tail. People avoid the high season for a reason. If all year "feels" like the high season, some folks will choose a different vacation destination.
They clearly weren't in school that day, because they've already turned the company over to the bean counters.Yes. I've always gone to WDW during the off season so I wouldn't have to stand in summer or holiday season length lines. If every month ends up like January 2018, I'll quit going except for a day here and there. My personal guest satisfaction is in direct proportion to how long lines are.....I can see this hitting the limits of guest tolerance when GESWL debuts, and the visitor floodgates open, unless WDW normalizes their staffing/vehicle & load situation...A company that starts taking their customers for granted & cuts corners, is going to pay in the long term, no matter how strong their brand. Take heed at what happened to Sears, one of the strongest brands ever in the American marketplace, when they started playing penny wise pound foolish, and cut their guarantees on their Craftsmen & appliance brands. They owned the tool and appliance business up to that misstep.That started their downward trend, long before on line competition, & they never recovered. Customers have their limits when it comes to brand loyalty.....Lesson: Never turn your company over to the bean counters.
They've already been testing selling FP to the club level guests - $50 for 3 extra FP's - the monetizing is coming...Honestly though, I could very well see this plan as a way to completely monetize the FP system. Make the waits horrible all the time and the people who can afford to throw money away won't think twice about tossing a couple hundred a day to not wait in line. Or just book a room thats a few grand extra for the week. Whichever way they want to go with it.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that. I can’t go on Magic anymore because it’s so unbelievably negative.I often find many there to be more negative on Disney than we are.
Ohhh...unless some magical miracle happens, this fall will not be like your trip in 2015.
I dropped my Walt Disney World annual pass many years ago. Going once a year to Mickey's Halloween Party gives me my Magic Kingdom fix and I am good.That’s exactly why those extra hours upcharge parties are so popular.